Kerri Pomarolli [00:00:00]:

We are the opposition to beauty. True comedy is not caring what it looks like. You know what I mean? True comedy is putting it all out there. And I don't care if my audience is I've had audience of 20,000. I've had audiences of 50. And if you're really a good comic, you give those 50 people the best experience you can give them. Mhmm. And being a comedian as a female as opposed to being a comedian as an actress is very free because we're not necessarily judged on our appearance.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:00:30]:

It's judged on what we're bringing to the audience. I always joke as a comic, I can gain 10 or 15 pounds and still be appreciated for my art, you know, and actresses are like, they're so, marginalized. Welcome to the Kalos Center podcast.

Jim Spiegel [00:00:55]:

Welcome everybody to another episode of the Kalos Center podcast. Our guest today is Carrie Palmeroli. She's a national headlining stand up comedian who's worked with the likes of Jay Leno, Jim Carrey, Carol Channing, and Jerry Lewis. She's been featured on The Tonight Show couple of dozens of times, and she's appeared on Comedy Central, Netflix, ABC, CNN, Roku, Amazon Prime, and just about every other network as well as LA's top comedy clubs. A person of devout faith, Carey is regularly featured on Christian networks and is toured with a host of Christian artists and speakers from the Newsboys to Jonny Erickson Tada. Carey is also very active in the pro life movement and has hosted and performed at many pro life events and fundraisers. Carrie is also an author whose books include How to Ruin Your Dating Life, a Christian's Guide for Avoiding Almost Every Mistake in the Book, and another entitled She Rises Late and Her Kids Make Her Breakfast, Devotions for the Proverbs 32 Woman, and a book on the faith trials of the single life called Guys Like Girls Named Jenny. And as a nationally syndicated columnist, Carrie's writings also regularly appear in several popular magazines.

Jim Spiegel [00:02:10]:

She also has a podcast for their teenage daughter, Lucy, called The Carpool Comedy Podcast, which is hysterical. I would describe it as high energy spontaneous reflections on all aspects of culture, sports, food, beauty pageants, short shorts, cemeteries, and the mafia among other topics. So with that, Carrie, welcome to the Kalos Center podcast.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:02:34]:

Hello, my friend. I'm glad to be here.

Jim Spiegel [00:02:36]:

So I actually dated a girl named Jenny.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:02:39]:

Well, you get that all girls named Jenny are cute and adorable, and Jenny grabbed us, stole my boyfriend from kindergarten, and I'm not over it. And there's been a string of Jennys in my life that are cute and adorable. Like, you can't be not cute if you're Jennie.

Jim Spiegel [00:02:52]:

Yep. Well, she was a cute one. In the end, I was not up to her caliber, but she did make me better. So very

Kerri Pomarolli [00:02:59]:

I feel like back in the eighties, all the girls were named, like, Jennie and, like, Jessica, and they have, like, cute now kids are named, like, Olive and Rupel and, you know, like, you know, Tree Stomp. Like, they're just not like, our names were solid. You know? Jim, Gary, Jenny, Bob.

Jim Spiegel [00:03:17]:

You know? My brothers are Tom, Bob, and John, and then there's me.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:03:21]:

Right? It's not complicated. Right?

Jim Spiegel [00:03:24]:

So I'm I have not had so much fun preparing for a podcast as this. My my wife would hear me laughing in my study as I was watching your work, You know? And it was, Jim, what are you doing in there? Just working, honey. Research. Research. So, that's been a lot of fun. Let me just start by asking you about your your tour. You're currently on tour. Right? How is that going?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:03:47]:

Well, it's going great. I sort of I'm on tour nine months out of the year. I I just go where I'm asked to go. It's crazy. I mean, I'm going to Canada. I'm going to Missouri. I'm going to North Carolina. I think I need a tour manager if you need another job, because I go, like, zigzag across the country and now, North America.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:04:09]:

But I live in Sacramento, California, Jim. It's very hot here in the summer, so I'm trying to do a tour, get me out of Sacramento this summer. I will come for free, and then I'll work for you if you just book me out of Sacramento summer because it's a 10 degrees the whole summer, and it's miserable. Right. Yeah. So I'm just kind of all over the place. I mean, there's not the only state I haven't toured in is is Alaska.

Jim Spiegel [00:04:35]:

I was just gonna mention Anchorage as a, you know, a potential alternative for you.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:04:39]:

I'm I'm I'm like, book me out of Sacramento this summer. Book me out of Sacramento. But, yes. So I'm I'm and I'm taking my daughter Ruby with me a lot. Her story is very prevalent to my pro life desires to help that movement because my daughter was born with something, health challenge wise that has a very, very, very high abortion rate, like eighty percent. And she's 14 now, and she was born with all these challenges, but she's overcome them. And so she comes on stage with me to talk about how every life matters, and then, it's a really powerful testimony. But she can come on stage in front of a thousand people and get a stand up ovation standing ovation, but I had to kick her out of the talent show, that I'm heading up at her school last week because she wasn't practicing her dance moves.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:05:28]:

And I was like, I'm sorry. I can't play favorites. You kinda are not bringing your a game. And then she's 14. She's like, fine. I'm like, you're out. You're out. You want fame? Fame cost.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:05:40]:

So now I'm hosting the talent show without my daughter because she didn't practice her dancing.

Jim Spiegel [00:05:45]:

Oh, no. So, your strong convictions regarding sanctity of life, that's clearly not working of your faith. Talk about your your faith journey and how that impacts your professional life both and off the stage.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:06:00]:

Yeah. I'm an Italian, Irish Catholic, Detroit kid with a Presbyterian mom, and I moved to Los Angeles and just went to church when there was free food, potluck dinners. And around my mid twenties, I guess it really became real to me. I I was always raised in I guess we would have called it a religious family. But in my mid twenties in California, my faith relationship with God, whatever you wanna call it, was just more of a piece of my life than just showing up on Sundays. And then it started to affect my decisions as a career and my decisions as a person, and and God just sort of politely, invaded all areas of my life, which led me to stand up comedy. Because an actress in Hollywood, I was very happy to acting, but the roles were very challenging. And when you're an actor, you have to wait for somebody to write you a role, but when you're a stand up comedian, you can write your own material.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:06:55]:

You know? So that's kinda where how stand up started was because of my faith.

Jim Spiegel [00:07:00]:

So one of my interests is philosophy of art and aesthetics. And so I reflect, you know, on, you know, all the the different art forms, especially music and film, but also, you know, the theatrical side and, you know, stand up comedy. And, I've often reflected on, you know, this question. You know, what what are the key ingredients to being an effective comedian? And I've I've landed on these three. One No.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:07:25]:

I can't wait to hear them. You tell me. Okay.

Jim Spiegel [00:07:27]:

Yeah. So being observant, being a good writer, and courage. Does does that seem right to you, or and would you add anything to that one?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:07:38]:

You forgot whiskey. But yeah. Basically, this is Carlos Oscar says this. He's an amazing comedian. He says people say funny things. Comedians say things funny. So I was talking to you earlier about my some of my life experiences, and you were laughing because I have normal everyday life experiences. But because my brain works differently, they become funny.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:08:02]:

Like, the world is talking about RFK. Right? RFK is gonna save the health. He's so great. Well, my comedian brain is like, he's gonna take my pop tarts, and I'm gonna have to go to Mexico to get my candy. And so you know, and then some of those you know, I was joking about going to Canada, and I ate their candy, but they don't have chemicals, and their candy tastes like broken dreams. So these are, like, everyday life experiences that I have that you would have. But as a comedian, we just automatically go, oh, this is kind of peculiar. I think I'll talk about it on stage.

Jim Spiegel [00:08:33]:

So you're also an author, and, you've published books on dating, singleness, as well as parenting, as well as, some of those in in devotional form. Do you think of yourself as a writer first or as a performer who also writes?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:08:50]:

That's really kind of you. And by the way, there was some marriage in there. I married a comedian who, is at my house seven days a week, and we actually got divorced eleven years ago. And we're touring, massive tours everywhere. And then this past Valentine's Day, we took the stage together for the first time in over a decade. It was kinda crazy. But, I love writing with a passion, like, I love, I love. But if you made me give up one, it would be writing before it would be comedy because I think comedy is fuels my soul.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:09:20]:

It's a ministry. It's a way to connect with people. I love writing movies. I've written for the Hallmark Channel and really grateful for that and wanna write more. Love it so much. It it financially is a better deal. I don't have to leave my house, but, I just I get such a thrill of going in front of people. And I use sometimes I share the gospel.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:09:44]:

You know, if I'm at a church and they allow me to, I'll share the gospel after my comedy, and that is the biggest thrill. But then in club, it's also really fun when you're comic number 47 at 11:30 and everyone's wasted and nobody expects you to be a girl comic who's funny, and you go out and make them laugh. I did that at the Hard Rock Casino last weekend, and the the booker came up. And he was kinda, like, surprised that that was really funny because he knows I'm clean, and, he wants to book me again. So I like the challenge. Now who do you who do you like in comedy? Who do you think is funny?

Jim Spiegel [00:10:19]:

My all time favorite is George Carlin. Tim Hawkins, is one of my favorite contemporary comic.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:10:28]:

Different. Tim Hawkins is so different. That's Yeah. They're like yin and yang even in their stylings because George Carlin is so, like, ethereal. You know? And I Yeah. I love smart. Not that Tim's not smart. He's in front of me.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:10:41]:

But I love quick witted comedy. You know what I mean? Like, Hickey was so fast.

Jim Spiegel [00:10:48]:

Yeah. George Carlin's his social and cultural observations are sometimes so keen and insightful. You get yourself thinking so much you might forget to laugh, but there's a lot of insight there.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:11:00]:

You know who the modern George Carlin to me is? Bill Burr.

Jim Spiegel [00:11:04]:

I haven't I haven't seen him. Phil

Kerri Pomarolli [00:11:06]:

He's so funny, but he just says it. And he's not Christian, but he says things that are so prolific and funny. Like, he's talking about the world and black lives matter and all this stuff, and I can't do it justice. But he was like, how do white women get themselves in the middle of every racial conflict and make it about them? And I'm a white woman, and I'm laughing because just go to Facebook. Right? And all these middle class Caucasians are like, I'm just really triggered by the Black Lives Matter being you know what I'm like? It's not about you. But, yeah, he's really funny. He just says it like it is. I love Sebastian Maniscalco.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:11:47]:

I love Jim Gaffigan. They're just I still like Eddie Murphy, Tracy Morgan, all those SNL guys.

Jim Spiegel [00:11:55]:

Now am I going out on a limb to speculate that maybe your daughter, Lucy, was named after one of the all time?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:12:02]:

It's funny. Everyone asks that. I just like the name Lucy McGee. It means bringer of light.

Jim Spiegel [00:12:08]:

Okay.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:12:08]:

I and then she's actually Ruby and Lucy are my daughters, and they both have Kenny Rogers songs, about women of the night and and their names. Ruby, Ruby, don't take your love to town. You picked up fine time to leave me, Lucille. But, yeah, I love Lucille Ball. I grew up on Lucille and Carol Burnett and Tracy Allman and but movies, I'm a huge movie buff. I mean, huge. The only one I don't like is horror, but I I it is my favorite pastime if you'll find me anywhere watching movies with my kids.

Jim Spiegel [00:12:40]:

One of my all time favorites maybe my single

Kerri Pomarolli [00:12:44]:

I was gonna ask you. What's your favorite?

Jim Spiegel [00:12:46]:

My favorite I was gonna say actor, but he was more than that. My favorite, film figure in history, I think, is the most all things considered talented person in the history of film, and that's Buster Keaton.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:13:01]:

Well, yeah, you're going way back. I'm half our we just lost half our audience, but I know who you're talking about.

Jim Spiegel [00:13:06]:

So the the father the father, the comedic father of Jim Carrey, as you know, is Jerry Lewis. The comedic father of Jerry Lewis is Buster Keaton.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:13:17]:

Buster Keaton, Red Skelton, those guys that were so physical. Lucille Ball was a genius Yep. That you just don't get it. You don't see it. Jim Carrey, she is the mother of generation of Jim Carrey comedy. I was gonna think Phil Farrell started and a lot of great comedians started. And my teacher was like, you need to go over to Second City instead of being here. Second City is where John Belushi and Eugene Levy.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:13:46]:

He said they write more. In Groundlings, we roll on the stage and set ourselves on fire, and you clearly don't wanna do that. And I was like, yeah. I don't wanna do that. But, so there's such a different layer of comedy, when you watch, like, a Tina Fey, Amy Poehler that are more like intellectual writing or you watch the brilliance of Damon Wayans from In Living Color and Mad TV and Sherry Oteri and Will Ferrell that were more character driven and physical. You know?

Jim Spiegel [00:14:15]:

So comedy is, I think we can agree, it's a kind of theatrical art. And the arts are generally understood as, you know, interested in beauty. Do do you think of what you do as a way of creating beauty?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:14:30]:

No. I think comics are the most unsexy thing on stage. You should see the pictures that people take of me and post on Facebook. I always joke that there's there isn't one normal picture of me on the Internet. It's me I mean, I do get physical. It's funny that you say that. I do go down on my hands and knees, and I do I I think it's beautifully funny, but we we are the opposition to beauty. True comedy is not caring what it looks like.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:14:55]:

You know what I mean? True comedy is putting it all out there. And I don't care if my audience is I've had audience of 20,000. I've had audiences of 50. And if you're really a good comic, you give those 50 people the best experience you can give them. Mhmm. And being a comedian as a female as opposed to being a comedian as an actress is very free because we're not necessarily judged on our appearance. It's judged on what we're bringing to the audience. I always joke as a comic, I can gain 10 or 15 pounds and still be appreciated for my art, you know, and actresses are like they're so, marginalized.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:15:32]:

But, anyway

Jim Spiegel [00:15:34]:

yeah. So Aristotle said that, tragedy is, is about catharsis, purging negative emotions like fear and pity. He doesn't seem to see comedy on the same level in that regard. But do you think that comedy could have a similar cathartic or even cleansing effect on people? Do you ever feel that your humor is cathartic for you?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:15:57]:

I think that my humor is cathartic for me and for my audiences, and I have proof. People come up to me and they're like, my mom just died. I haven't been out in three months. This is the first time I let it go. I'm going through chemo. This is an hour where I didn't think about the chemo. I didn't think about my divorce. I didn't think about the problems.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:16:17]:

And, also, I like to joke that my life should make you feel better about your life because you'll drive home and be like, I am not as messed up as that girl. And we used to joke about that when we did marriage events. Like, Ron and I were like, you're gonna feel amazing about your spouse after hearing us argue. So I think it's very cathartic and healing, you know, very healing.

Jim Spiegel [00:16:38]:

One of the next questions I wanted to ask was regarding the fact that you your routines will, will touch on difficult and even painful issues, which a lot of comics do even though that might seem counterintuitive. No.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:16:51]:

Good comedy comes from pain, Jim. Yeah. Good. If if a comedian gets rich and famous and they're not struggling anymore, they're usually not funny.

Jim Spiegel [00:17:00]:

Mhmm. So you also bill yourself, and I think this is, truth in advertising, is someone who crushes clean comedy.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:17:09]:

I didn't write that. Somebody wrote it, but

Jim Spiegel [00:17:11]:

No. I think it's right. And it's often said that this is this is more challenging. And I've reflected on that and and wondered why that is the case. I think it is the case. But, I don't know if you're familiar with the three major theories of humor among, you know, philosophers of humor. One is the superiority theory, which says that we laugh when we have a sudden sense of superiority to someone, which you certainly capitalize on that. The, the another theory is the incongruity theory, which says that we laugh when we we find, say, a couple of things put together that aren't normally combined.

Jim Spiegel [00:17:53]:

Right? Like, so so a a talking dog, for example, or, a man in a dress or a woman with a mustache or whatever. And then the the third kind of humor is, sort of relief where you have and people like Freud and Herbert Spencer proposed this that we laugh, to relieve social tension. It something inappropriate has been done, and, you know, we're we're we feel nervous about that, and we we laugh to relieve the tension. Now if you go after, say, dirty humor, you're doing you're kinda capitalizing on that relief, a factor all the time. If you're going with clean comedy, it's like there's a whole category of humor that isn't open to you. Does that make sense?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:18:39]:

Girls would go on stage and just say the raunchiest, most sexual thing, and the laugh the audience would go, like like a reaction to it, like when you were in fifth grade and somebody showed you a dirty magazine. You know? It was like, They're not laughing out of joy. It's more like, oh. Right? Now I still use the art the art of surprise. I go to Texas and I I say, I'm so sorry about your immigration problem, and they get scared. And I'm like, because Californians are buying up all your real estate. So it's the it's the art of surprise, and comedians putting, like you said, two things together. But when they're laughing at dirty comedy sometimes, unless unless you're like Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy and it's, like, real to them.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:19:25]:

Like, I'm laughing at Kevin Hart's true stories about his uncle who was a crackhead who would show up at school in nothing but a trench coat, and that's not necessarily the cleanest stories. Right? But that was authentic to his life, so I can appreciate that. Being dirty to get attention, which is what a lot of up and comers do, is just is just to try to get a laugh out of somebody because you can't write a joke. Do you know what I mean? Like, write a joke and make them laugh. So I get a lot of comments, you know, oh, I really liked you. Something was different about you. I'm not sure what it was. You know, they don't necessarily go, you were the only clean one, but I don't mind being I can appreciate some comments that are really not clean as long as they don't offend me.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:20:06]:

But I think that, Chappelle, he he swears a lot in his act, but he's not offending me. And I think he's funny.

Jim Spiegel [00:20:15]:

And it it's in the context of genuine and often surprising insights.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:20:21]:

Yeah. Well, Chappelle talks like that off stage, so he's gonna talk like that. Like, Richard Pryor swore a lot off stage, so he was being authentic. He grew up in the hood. This is how they spoke. I can appreciate that, and I can also appreciate people to go, I don't like it because comedy is very subjective. There are brilliant comics out there that I wouldn't pay a lot of money to go see, but gosh darn, you know, they're selling out stadiums. So comedy is very subjective.

Jim Spiegel [00:20:49]:

Yeah. For sure. They're different styles, and some prefer the more a more slapstick physical comedy. Others a more intellectual kind of comedy. And I

Kerri Pomarolli [00:20:59]:

don't know what my comedy is. What do you think my comedy is?

Jim Spiegel [00:21:02]:

There's definitely a physicality to it. And there's, you know, some significant social insights. You you do, create incongruities there, along the way. There is that element of surprise and that feeling of superiority, right, that you are self deprecating

Kerri Pomarolli [00:21:24]:

Yeah.

Jim Spiegel [00:21:24]:

In a way that is endearing to people.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:21:27]:

Well, the first rule of comedy is make the audience like you. That's the goal. Like, and I'll take a story, Jim. When I was in my twenties and I was starting comedy, I had a mentor. His name is Bone. And he is a six foot six African American guy from Texas. And we would go to the club, and I would wear a cute little T shirt and very tight T shirt, and it would say your boyfriend says hello. Right? And he goes, Carrie, you can't go on that stage and make all the women hate you.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:21:54]:

Like, you can't be try to be the hot girl. That's not comedy. You have to make the women like you, and then the men know it's okay to laugh at you. You know what I mean? And so now I go to you know, I do co ed shows all the time. Now sometimes I do a women's show, and a guy will be there because their wife was like, come to the show. And I love that because I just like to make fun of the dude. I'm like, did she tell you it was monster truck rally tonight, and are you are you excited for my mammogram jokes? So, but you have to make the women in the audience like you, and then the men will come around.

Jim Spiegel [00:22:28]:

That's good. Well, I'd I've loved it from the start. And even on your website, when I first went to your website, that photograph of you is just right because there's a

Kerri Pomarolli [00:22:40]:

Thank you.

Jim Spiegel [00:22:40]:

There's a there's a certain goofy, subtle, goofy quality. I mean, I mean, you're not making a wildly goofy face, but there's there's something comedic in that pose that really works. So whoever chose that

Kerri Pomarolli [00:22:53]:

Thanks, Jim.

Jim Spiegel [00:22:54]:

Thank you. Nice work. So here's a theological question for you. Would you say that God is a comedian?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:23:02]:

I think God is a lot funnier than we think. I think we don't give him enough credit for being funny, and I I don't get it how people think Jesus was funny. I don't know if he was or not, but life is funny. Circumstances are funny. The way that our lives are orchestrated are funny. We just have to see it with the right lens. Do you know what I mean?

Jim Spiegel [00:23:24]:

Yeah. I think it's it's exactly right. I don't know what if Jesus did a stand up routine, I don't know exactly what his approach would be. I guess, being omniscient, he could you could pretty much dialogue any style, and he'd nail it.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:23:39]:

I do joke about the Bible all the time. I'm like, I I read the Bible, and I read it like a comedian. So, like, Peter walked on water. You know? And I'm like, well, what if there was another, like, disciple who tried named Jerry? And he ate too many fishes and loaves, and he sank, and we don't even hear about Jerry. So, like, I just sort of think biblical thoughts that other I'm like, what about Mary and Martha? That you know that story about Jesus going to Mary and Martha's house, and Mary's so good, and Mary sat at Jesus' feet, but Martha made all the snacks. Okay? Martha cleaned the house. Martha made a cheese board. She's getting a bad rap.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:24:13]:

So I'm always thinking that God is funny in the way he wrote things. Half of my prayer life is just looking up to heaven going, you saw that. Right? You freaking saw that, you know, Because humanity just needs a good spanking from God, like, all the time, I think.

Jim Spiegel [00:24:31]:

And comic relief. Yeah. So my wife and I will often say to one another about some life situation that you and other people say this. It's a very common idiom that you can't write this. You know, you you have some confluence of events in your life that is so bizarre, we say, coincidental and and, comical that really, if you wrote it, nobody would you know, they couldn't suspend their disbelief, but that would be an aspect of God's comedy. I'll just see, the the crazy situations we find ourselves in, which is apparent. Right? It seems like every day, there there's a new comical situation.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:25:14]:

Well and I my new, Spotify project is called things I shouldn't I shouldn't say this out loud. I think that's what it's called. And I think that's the gift of comedy. It's just walking on stage and being able to go, I know what you're thinking. I know that you have to, you know, support all these tariffs, and we're really excited. But if he tariffs China, then there's no more Timu, and we're all secretly upset about that. So it's just sort of like saying silly things, that will get a reaction of, like, I I thought that too. You know? I talk about marriage.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:25:46]:

I talk about how women can never be sick. You know, we could be bleeding and hemorrhaging in our brains, and we can be slept to drive the car. But and I I say to the women, like, raise your hand if you think men are, like, a little wimpy when they get sick. And just, like, just that act of, like, yeah. We all think it. You know? Like, we all think it. So I guess comedy, you're right, is being observant and then calling it out.

Jim Spiegel [00:26:08]:

Yep. No. That's that's a universal about men. I I think I can plead guilty on behalf of all 4,200,000,000 of us. You know?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:26:17]:

And I'm like, you guys go and kill bears and hunt and and and ravage, and you go to the dentist and you're in the bed for four days. What like, we give birth, and we're back out in the fields. You know? It's just so funny. But then I have a whole joke about how women are mad at men for getting sick, and it's a whole thing. But I think life is you are you really nailed it. It's just about being observant.

Jim Spiegel [00:26:39]:

Yeah. I I do a lot of renovations. I'm kind of a, I guess, a amateur carpenter, and I've renovated virtually our our whole house. Our current house is about a 80 years old. And I I did electrical in in all the rooms. Right? Wow. And so I've gotten pretty good at that. Then I can't find the mayonnaise in my refrigerator.

Jim Spiegel [00:27:00]:

You know, I admit that it can seem a little, odd.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:27:04]:

I mean, I I I I think that about kids today. Right? Like, kids today can fix my computer, right, and and communicate internationally, but they can't order a meal at a restaurant with the parent, like, helping them. They can't pick up the phone and dial. You know? Like, that is the thing that's so different about and I I always say back in my day, we were in the field running from the cops because we had a bonfire or going off to Mexico for spring break, and my kids are taking the trash out. They're like, it's too dark. You know? So it's just so the irony of it. Right? The irony of what we can and can't do.

Jim Spiegel [00:27:42]:

Yeah. And we're all contradictions in that regard, I I suppose. So, I like to ask all of our guests this, and that is, about the meaning of life. Besides the obvious universal quest for Skittles and great pizza, what would you say is the meaning of life?

Kerri Pomarolli [00:27:59]:

Well, obviously, it's sushi, so let's just start there. But, you know, the meaning of life from my perspective as a Christian is that when I'm done with this life, I will have done everything that I was called to do. And I also think that that is walking through this life with integrity, and that is the hardest part. Because if I wasn't a Christian, I'm Italian. I could, like, you know, handle things my own way, but it's walking through this life. So at the end of it, god looks at me and says, well done, good and faithful servant.

Jim Spiegel [00:28:33]:

Very good. Amen. Well, this has been so much fun, Carrie, and thanks for all you do. Keep up the great work, and hope to see you on stage sometime soon.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:28:43]:

You know, I just wanna tell you, Jim, you're really smart. You're really smart, and I appreciate you. Your questions have made me think about things differently, and I appreciate that today. So I I I think you're a great host, and congratulations.

Jim Spiegel [00:28:57]:

Well, thank you. And feel free to use me as a a butt of a joke.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:29:02]:

I thought you said you wanna be my opener, but okay.

Jim Spiegel [00:29:04]:

Yeah. Both. Alright. Good. Thank you, Carrie.

Kerri Pomarolli [00:29:09]:

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